I can't figure out how to see anyone or a forum or anything

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I can't figure out how to see anyone or a forum or anything

Postby ineedadaddy » 10 months ago

I don't know how this works :pouting:

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Re: I can't figure out how to see anyone or a forum or anything

Postby admin » 10 months ago

Hi there! We're so very glad to see you around the forum.

Please know that:

  • 1. You are not permitted to access user profiles prior to having at least (1) post accepted onto the forum.

  • 2. You are not permitted to utilize the chat room for chatting prior to having at least (1) post accepted onto the forum.

These are rules that exist to help protect the privacy of users as best as possible and to reduce spammers. We want you to be an active part of our community. We want to get to know you. We also want you to understand how our community site works. These are all reasons why the above rules exist.

User profiles contain personal details such as other site usernames, usernames to chat external programs, and, in many cases, even mobile phone numbers. We don't want just anyone to see these things so we share them with only active users!

The chat room is instant and allows for a large group chat or single one-on-one chats. Our website for the community is not a dating site and we find that having users post on our site first lets us get to know them and helps them understand that our site is so much more than our personals section. We had a number of complaints prior that the chat room was just full of things like, "I need a Daddy!" so we do not allow those things. Ever since we enforced the rule to require at least (1) post be approved on the site we've bettered conversation and friendliness within the chat!

We hope you enjoy it around these parts of the internet and find yourself well appreciated. Please don't hesitate if you need to ask question--we are more than happy to assist.

Razle

Re: I can't figure out how to see anyone or a forum or anything

Postby Razle » 10 months ago

[quote="admin"]Hi there! We're so very glad to see you around the forum.

Please know that:

[list][*][b]1.[/b] You are not permitted to access user profiles prior to having at least (1) post accepted onto the forum.[/list]

[list][*][b]2.[/b] You are not permitted to utilize the chat room for chatting prior to having at least (1) post accepted onto the forum.[/list]

These are rules that exist to help protect the privacy of users as best as possible and to reduce spammers. We want you to be an active part of our community. We want to get to know you. We also want you to understand how our community site works. These are all reasons why the above rules exist.

User profiles contain personal details such as other site usernames, usernames to chat external programs, and, in many cases, even mobile phone numbers. We don't want [i]just anyone[/i] to see these things so we share them with only active users!

The chat room is instant and allows for a large group chat or single one-on-one chats. Our website for the community is [u]not[/u] a dating site and we find that having users post on our site first lets us get to know them and helps them understand that our site is so much more than our personals section. We had a number of complaints prior that the chat room was just full of things like, "I need a Daddy!" so we do not allow those things. Ever since we enforced the rule to require at least (1) post be approved on the site we've bettered conversation and friendliness within the chat!

We hope you enjoy it around these parts of the internet and find yourself well appreciated. Please don't hesitate if you need to ask question--we are more than happy to assist.[/quote]

Although that's a valid point, enforcing the 1 post required rule does bring out lots of generic responses and more or less doesn't help with the spamming factor because of that. Be it anything from generic 'hi'-s in welcome threads to quick replies here and there just so that people can get around this requirement.

Maybe you could consider a bit more user friendly approach to limiting the information available by for example forcing email verification or making sure the user has been registered for a day or two, just to name a few.

Cheers,
Razle

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Re: I can't figure out how to see anyone or a forum or anything

Postby admin » 10 months ago

Thanks for your follow-up, Razle!

I apologize for my lack of clear wording. What I mean by spammers is those bots who join a website to spam links to their various sites and products. We've had quite a number of those access the site, but none of them have actually gotten anything successfully posted, really.

Each first post of every user is manually reviewed by human eyes at this point. (No, it was not always this way.) I understand your thought of, "Oh, but people are going to post random nonsense then or just reply with a single word reply."

Believe it or not, this is quite a rarity. We typically do now refuse a post that just says, "Hi," and we encourage the user to post actual content. Any time a post is denied from being on the site we try to explain to the user what went wrong. (More often than not, the users that have had their initial post declined were simply posting personal ads within the wrong section of the forum. An easy fix! :) ) When we do allow these types of short-and-sweet posts to go through then we typically hold the user in the "Newly Registered" queue to where another message or two also needs to be manually reviewed/approved.

At one point, the site did require the user to verify their e-mail but we felt it wasn't as necessary since we are manually reviewing at least their first post. We figure you're signing up to use the site right now--why do we want to send you all the way to your e-mail address just to confirm you wanted to register. As time goes on, we may end up requiring e-mail verification again but, right now, we just don't see a need in it.

Forcing a user to wait a set amount of time to even get to post on the site seems a bit excessive, not very user friendly, and can cause the site to be long forgotten from their memory by the time 24 or 48 hours have passed from site registration. I know that I, personally, have completely forgotten about sites I've registered for days after because they didn't offer what I wanted immediately. (Most recently, a game site that only allowed 1 game to be played a day. I played that day and forgot about it for about a week before I remembered that game--and then I had to search the internet again to try to find the site.) I don't think anyone wants us to be forgotten about, but that feels like what would happen if we held all accounts from posting (and, really, what would they do without the ability to post on the forum, private message, or chat? How would we verify they were any better a user by preventing them from communicating or expressing themselves? It's almost as if we need to interview in them in some way just to join our site--and that seems kind of lengthy and time-consuming for everyone. I'm not seeing any benefit for anyone with this idea so, perhaps, I've misunderstood the idea behind the hold-time in posting. :( ).

To give you insight to the current process, this is how user accounts are handled:

1. User registers an account on the site.

2. User submits their first post for approval. Post sits in a queue to be manually reviewed by the admin and/or moderators.

*possible 3. User continues to post multiple threads and replies on the site. All of these are held for review since initial post still hasn't yet been approved. (These posts will also be reviewed because they are now 'queued' for us to look at along with the initial post.)

4. Admin and/or moderators review the post(s) for approval or denial.

- Approved: The post(s) the user submitted in the queue is approved and the account is either manually moved from needing post review ("Newly Registered" account type) to posting freely ("Registered" account type).

- Denied: The post(s) the user submitted in the queue is denied with a message to the user as to why it was not approved.

We, generally, move accounts over from "Newly Registered" to "Registered" when the initial post is approved, but if we feel like the person may need additional review we may leave the need for the next couple of posts to be reviewed first before posting them. We've never had a situation where we felt we needed to review an account more than 2-3 posts though. We also do things like check I.P. addresses against known banned users.

All posts are able to be flagged by other members. We've had few posts flagged but the ones that have been flagged have been appropriately brought to our attention. We're very pleased with how trustworthy and caring our members have been when they are concerned about something that has been posted here.

If you have other ideas on how to improve the safety and security of the site then we're all ears. We're still actively trying to find the right middle ground so that new users can find us and recognize us as a good, safe haven of helpful information and people while maintaining the safety and positivity of our community members.


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